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here on the very rim of known space justice is

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Hello my friends and welcome.

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Hello my friends and welcome to the Space Game Junkie podcast.

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I as always am your cohost Brian and joining me as always is your cohost Spaz.

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Here for the long haul.

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and your co-host Julie.

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Pressing the wrong buttons.

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Hello, how you doing?

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and your co-host Thorsten.

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Lo and Lo.

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and your cohost, Jacob.

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Happy Maggi-Thatcher Day to all who celebrate!

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is today the day she passed?

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Well, ah, good.

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So friends, um we are trying something a little bit different today.

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um Usually for the last several years, we have been using um Discord to record our
podcast, which fine, you know, Discord is a fine platform, but lately there's been some,

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problems with discord.

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um Some worrying trends that made us question whether we're going to be using discord for
a lot longer in the future.

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And so someone on the Retro Dogfight Discord um recommended a platform called Riverside to
record our podcasts.

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Riverside is a platform specifically for recording podcasts.

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Kind of a zoom type thing, but it's more for it again recording podcasts It's also
recording for recording video podcasts, but we don't obviously do that um So if we sound a

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little different um That's why we're using this it's a web-based tool they also have
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different.

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So it might sound a little different um the ah actual

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podcast mp3 will probably sound different because What Riverside does is before I would
record the wave file locally on my machine convert it to an mp3 and then upload that What

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Riverside does is records audio from each of our machines individually Uploads that to
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download the mp3, but I'm not sure if it's the same quality.

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So I'm have to check that

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But I could also download a wave file directly from Riverside and then convert that in
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So it might sound better.

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We're going to figure we're going to get, we're going to, we're going to find out.

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Um, so there's a lot I like.

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One thing I really like about this thing is because it's web-based, if my computer crashes
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decentralized.

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have five different recordings going instead of just one.

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There's a lot to like here.

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Another nice thing, which I'm very excited about is Riverside is a hand raise function.

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So hopefully we'll have less people interrupting each other.

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I'm disgustingly excited about that.

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You guys actually really, really excited about the hand raise functionality.

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my God.

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I'm really, really excited about that.

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So my friends, we have a topic today that was, who chose this one?

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I don't remember who chose this.

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down who chose this one.

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I think it was David and Chris.

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Maybe campaigns versus sandboxes and which we prefer.

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This is a big one.

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This is a big one because it's a big topic and we'll probably have a lot of varied
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Now it's, we should probably define what these mean.

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So a campaign ah is more of a linear

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Thing like Wing Commander free space um You know that kind of thing In terms of flight
sims like the nova logic games are much more linear campaign things um Scripted that sort

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of thing and when you think of a sandbox I I've put I put elite dangers on the screen here
because that's more sandbox II um

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I mean, it has missions, but there's nothing like you basically choose where you want to
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You decide your own, you set your own goals basically in a sandbox like Elite Dangerous or
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And there are things that mix the two like X4 for example, can be a sandbox, but it also
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Kind of mini campaigns that you can follow, you know, so there are games that kind of
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Um, I'm going to start with saying that I don't do well with sandboxes.

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I, uh, that's why I don't play games like mountain blade.

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For example, I, I don't do well with pure sandboxes at all.

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I, I need goals.

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I need a to-do list.

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need a thing.

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I need a place to go and a thing to do.

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Uh, but let's talk about what

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funny to me, honestly, because you really like Spaceborne 2.

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And that's very much a sandbox.

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Yes, but the it is well again you can You know, that's true, but at the same time you can
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You can build a very lengthy to-do list in a game like that So I guess in a way I'm making
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It's nuanced, is how I would put it.

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Julie, what do you want?

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I like it.

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We have a queue.

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Wait, we have a queue.

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Wait, there's a queue?

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Oh my God, there's a queue.

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Oh my God, there's a queue.

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We can, honest to God, make an orderly queue.

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my god, I'm in love

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have I jumped the line in the queue?

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No, no, no, you are the Q right now.

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You are.

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want to say, forgive me if you remember my talking about this in the past, but ah it has a
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The first online video game I played, ah MMO, was Ultima Online.

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And as far as being a sandbox is concerned, the problem is when I walked into Britannia
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All I did was stand there and I said, do I do now?

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I actually typed it in and behind me, somebody type, what do you want to do?

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Thank God somebody took me in hand and said, here's how the game worked.

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I would have been lost entirely without that.

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That said, when you get to a complex game like X4 foundations, which I absolutely love.

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without the campaign to lead me there and help me figure out how it works.

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Even with all the little, oh, here's flight school, to learn all the nuances because
there's a definite storyline in there, a campaign.

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I never started out with a human, so I don't know how it works, but I've started out with
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And there's different storylines.

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There's a pirate storyline.

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And if you want to become a trader, here's a tip.

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Start out with the pirate storyline.

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When they send you to steal the huge trading ship, steal it for yourself.

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That's how I got started.

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But the thing is, without that campaign, I wouldn't ever have been able to figure out how
the sandbox part worked.

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And after it guided me on how to figure out how the sandbox part worked, that's what
allowed me to enjoy it.

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Similarly, on our Sunday night group, when we dabble in different games and, uh you know,
like Helldivers and whatnot, but somebody wanted to start playing No Man's Sky.

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There is a kind of a storyline there, right?

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But without someone showing you how to work the parts in the sandbox, it's really
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And so when two of us are there, one helps out by saying, okay, do this, do this, do this,
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I tried to play Total War, I bought it on the strength that it was Warhammer and on the
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as a Warhammer podcast.

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And I just was totally lost, absolutely lost.

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That's my thing is this is why I enjoy things like X4 foundations because I can go through
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Minecraft, which I play, there's no, there's, there's nobody to guide you.

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And the first time I logged on to Minecraft, said, well, now what?

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So that's what I want.

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I need both.

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So that's I've had my say.

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I think in terms of uh campaign here, I think our distinction should not be whether there
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I think the distinction should be whether or not that campaign is story focused and or
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It has a campaign.

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It has a big sandbox and that campaign

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is not linear.

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You can take much of it in whatever order you want to with all the side missions that are
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But you could skip it and just jump right into the sandbox if you really want to.

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So I think in terms of how we define whether or not it's campaign versus sandbox, it
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that you go through entirely separate of the sandbox.

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Yeah, I guess what we should be talking about here is, um, isn't an open world game that
has like a story based, like tutorial style campaign that eases you into the world versus

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something like wing commander, which is completely linear, know, completely linear and
God, I love both.

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Like if we're looking at it that way, I love both, you know, it is really nuanced.

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like my favorite game starfleet 2 does not like That doesn't have linear.

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That's that that's both because you have you know A set of missions in an order but each
mission is like a little mini sandbox that you can do what you want But the next two

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favorite the next like next several games on my favorites list are linear space
dogfighters But then you get the star flight which is this giant open

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And then you get taxi not which this giant open thing but has a store though and then you
have spaceborn 2 and then you have Yeah, so So yeah, which one would I guess I guess we

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could talk about which one maybe we've spent more time in like have we spent more time in
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No Man's Sky or Elite or whatever or if we spent more time in linear world like um like
X-Wing or TIE Fighter or whatever.

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What's up, Julie?

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Well, I just wanted to say in that regard is to answer the question.

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Once I've been told how the game works, what I enjoy more about it is the sandbox.

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The two examples I give the most is, and I'm sure everybody's seen the cartoon about
learning curve with Eve Online where like off the cliff and straight down, which is very,

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very true.

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And, and this is why you like almost have to join.

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a corporation in order to have somebody show you the ropes.

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But after that, it's like, whether I was in NullSec or whether I was in HiSec, when I did
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And I said, leave me alone.

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Let me mine, take my product.

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And that's why once I learned how the sandbox work or in no man's sky, the thing is I did
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Now it's all about exploring and the latest thing is you can be a space-born Fred Sanford
is the latest thing.

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ah once I know how, I enjoy the sandbox the most.

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That kind of answers my question that I was going to put to everyone.

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What, what kind of game do you think you spent more time in over the years?

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The open world kind of can pay sandbox that might have a campaign in it, you know, or, or
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And for me, it's, it's going to be the more open, the more open

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kind of sandbox game because this surprises me because my, game I've spent the most time
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I've, I've got over 5,000 hours before the game shut down in Jump Gate.

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And that is, that game's a sandbox.

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That game is a pure sandbox, an MMO sandbox.

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There's no campaign at all.

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You just do mission after mission after mission after mission.

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So yeah, I guess, wow, I'm actually surprised because I thought I don't do sandboxes.

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But as we talk about more, it's like, crap.

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A specific type of sandbox is my primary, is my primary jam is one of my primary jams.

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ah boy.

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I like when discussions can take a turn.

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Surprising.

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no man's sky speaking of no man's sky they as of today they have Pokemon I gotta give uh

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your finest f- What?

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We'll get to that.

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um But let's go through the, let's go through the raise.

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Let's go through the hands and then we'll get, then we'll talk about that for a second.

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We'll have a sidebar.

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Thorsten, what'd you want to say?

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Yeah, I mean, I'm completely in the sandbox side of things, because I really don't like if
games hold my hand and I have to follow what...

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what some designer thought of it.

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That's why I don't like the Wing Commander series, be honest.

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um It's too linear for me.

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The first Wing Commander wasn't that bad, but uh already the second...

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There were too uh few uh exceptions, deflections from the storyline, you know?

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And I never wrapped my head around it.

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Seriously.

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That's fun.

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Uh, sugar.

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What'd you want to

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I'm gonna be entirely honest, I think I forgot.

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wait, no, the question was which one I spend more time in.

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And that's a weird question because the games I play the most are MMOs and I don't know
which category these technically count as.

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That's a hmm.

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Because there is a whole separate discussion in MMOs between theme park MMOs and sandbox
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And that is a whole thing.

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That is an entire separate discussion from this that has quite literally had people up in
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Or 30, sorry.

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Since the MMO was more or less invented

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And I'm not sure which ones the MMOs I played the most count as.

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Now Eve Online I played a lot of.

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That's an MMO.

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That's definitely a big sandbox.

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uh Final Fantasy XIV is kind of more on the theme park side.

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Is that still a campaign based game?

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I played the campaign.

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I liked it.

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I'm not sure...

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I'm not sure if it constitutes a...

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which is it constitutes in R-Division.

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But taking it outside of MMOs, I do think I've played more campaign-based games entirely
off the back of...

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Well...

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Entirely off the back of more games that I would consider...

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Basically, I count dynamic campaigns more towards the linear side than the sandbox side.

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I count something like XCOM.

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more towards a sort of structured but randomized campaign rather than a free-form
do-whatever game.

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And so the large variety of games derived from that, the large variety of games like
Jagged Alliance, games like basically any CRPG tends to be around a structured but sort of

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randomized or branching campaign and those are the games I played the most of.

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That's fair.

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Thorsten, what do want to add?

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I think we also have to differentiate between dynamic, randomized and procedurally
generated campaigns because that does change the narrative completely.

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I've got a lot of problems in regards of campaigns when they are linear about the
replayability part.

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I often don't...

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through another campaign if I played it through once.

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While uh in my previous examples, I mentioned uh dynamic or procedurally generated
campaigns, it's more likely that I pick up the game again at some time.

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That's a really fair point.

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Yeah.

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I agree with you in terms of especially like flight sims.

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Like I am an absolute randomization slash dynamic campaign snob.

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Absolute dynamic campaign snob.

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When it comes to things like flight sims, like like my favorite flight sims have either
some type of dynamic campaign or some type of randomization or some type of like my

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favorite World War II

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Flight Sim, for example, is 1942 Pacific Air War, which has that Admiral mode in it, which
is kind of a dynamic campaign because you're commanding the fleet and that never goes the

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same way twice.

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So that's kind of sandboxy.

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But it does depend on the game.

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It really does depend on the game.

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Like I, he really does depend the game.

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Like I love tie fighter and I love X-wing and I love, you know, free space, but I also
love EF 2000, you know?

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So, but you, you, but you, yeah, it really does work on a case by his basis and privateer,
um, Chris brought up privateer, which is an interesting, which is an interesting thing

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because privateer, like you had

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You had two um very linear Wing Commander games, one and two.

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There was some branching in those games, but they were still very linear.

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And then you have privateer, which is this completely open.

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mean, there is a story to it um that happens here and there.

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But the privateer is basically do your own thing and make money.

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Then you make enough money and then the story kind of happens to you kind of same thing
with freelancer basically um Yeah, they're they're more sandbox II

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But still, yeah, there are a lot more sandboxing than the other Wing Commander games,
which may be why they're a little more beloved, which may why privateer is a little more

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beloved, I think, at least for me, than uh more mainline linear games.

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At least I think so.

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I think one differentiation we can make is that a lot of these games that we've mentioned
so far that have this linear campaign as well as a sandbox, gets treated, the campaign

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gets treated like an extended tutorial.

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You play through that and then you're in the sandbox and now you know how to have the fun
you want to make out of it.

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Yeah, lot of games do do that, especially space games and.

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um And again, X4 is an excellent example of this.

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It has several like kind of mini campaigns.

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That kind of have their own little stories that kind of guides you to different parts of
the universe.

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um Like like the one that starts you off kind of exploring a little bit and then,
suddenly, hey, start a factory.

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Like, wait.

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or Starpoint Gemini Warlords for that matter.

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yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I always forget about that one.

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I'm sorry.

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I always forget about that one.

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It's such a great game.

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If you all haven't played that one, by the way, that is such a great game.

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Julie, what do you got?

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Well, you know, I just want to say the thing about X4 foundations and why I appreciate
more about their campaign, as I should say, is the fact that there's their main storyline,

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but there are so many other ways to start that it gives me a whole different perspective
on the game, depending on how I start.

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If I just start the main storyline, that's one thing I ended up with some guy floating in
a tank telling me how to recapture this whole station.

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But I can start out with the start that's unworthy entrepreneur.

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And it's like, here's an old beat up industrial station.

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Here's a mining ship and see if you can build up your empire.

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So I appreciate where there's a campaign, but you know, like branching parts of it that
will.

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give me different viewpoints on the sandbox once I get started.

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Yeah, and I have to give a game like X4 and Spaceborne 2 credit for straddling the line
between the two.

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They're kind of Elder Scrolls-y in that regard.

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In fact, in that they have larger storylines woven in there somewhere and you engage with
them here and there, but you don't really have to.

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But the sandbox takes up a much larger portion of the gameplay.

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um

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It's really mostly up to you when and where you engage with these more contained parts of
the game That's gotta be a fine line to walk and I gotta say the X games do it.

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Well Spaceborn does it well um You know, so it's it's really um It's really it's really
great what to see a game kind of do kind of do both

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Now I'll add with, go ahead.

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no good.

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Okay, I'll add that with Spaceborne 2.

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Things are fairly linear at first, and then once you start getting into the Empire
Building, once you unlock that, things open up in a wild way.

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I gotta get back into it because I'm sorry to interrupt.

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I gotta get back into it because goddamn I've not gotten much into that.

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I got distracted with other games.

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Like I think Taxi Knock came out and just took my focus completely away from it.

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I gotta get back into it.

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too.

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That's fair.

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But the thing with that, that sandbox, the, the campaign, uh, as you, as you try to build
up an empire, there are so many things that unlock along that way that it's still kind of

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leads you by the hand at first as you get into it.

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And then as you do more things within the empire building, like

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planter landings and taking castles that

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They ease you into that at first and then it's all you.

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You have to figure it out how you're going to tackle these problems because you've already
been shown how to do it.

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You just have to figure out how to do it.

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Yeah, I got to jump back into that game, folks.

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If you haven't played Spaceborne 2, it's a absolutely terrific game.

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It can be as sandbox here as just take missions as you want.

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and it's the missions are fun.

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Like they're all basically generated, but they're always a good time.

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Even if they're in space or on the ground, they're almost always a good time.

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Sometimes they can get a little frustrating here and there, but like.

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98 % of the time they're fun, you know And like it's it's a it's I don't know how they did
it But like they they out star sis and star sis and just like no man's sky is doing which

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uh side note again They just added Pokemon today Shogun they did they added Pokemon today
as we're recording this you could you can find Excuse me, you can find creatures in the

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wild and you can see their stats

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And you can capture these creatures and use them in the arena.

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And I'm not making any of this up and.

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not?

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speak on this a bit.

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you can already tame monsters uh or fauna that you find in the world.

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Some are robotic, some are organic, some are uh extremely alien bug-like.

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uh That was already a thing that's been a thing for years.

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The thing that was added with today's update is that it's an arena that you can...

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holographic arenas that you can take those creatures that you've tamed and have them
fight.

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There are uh NPCs in a story campaign that goes along with it, a mini campaign that is
tied into that where you can have your uh tamed creatures fighting against the NPCs.

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You can also do PvP with them in these arenas on stations.

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and in the Nexus.

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It's a thing.

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It is absolutely a thing.

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I have not played with it yet.

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I've seen video.

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It looks really cool.

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Apparently there are daily challenges.

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Apparently there are super rare creatures you can find that give you all kinds of buffs
and bonuses.

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There are rewards, like in-game rewards you can get for doing these challenges and winning
these fights.

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It's a whole nother, they've added a whole nother layer to this game that Elite and Star
Citizen can't even touch.

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It just...

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I fully expect the next expedition is going to uh use this mechanic heavily.

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The what?

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I fully expect that the next expedition in the game is going to use this, yeah, it's going
to use this mechanic very heavily.

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It's going to be focused on it.

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It's what I'm, I'm 98 % sure.

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was going to use a video of no man's sky as the background, but then they added the
trailer for this thing and I'm like, I don't want to make this too timely.

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That's why I switched it to a elite dangerous, which is another space sandbox, but nowhere
near as good as good a space sandbox as I mean, it's okay.

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It's not terrible, I guess, but it's not as good as.

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ah I'm still I'm still disappointed like I guess we can talk about a problem with
sandboxes like elite dangerous and whatnot is that they can get a little stagnant You

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know, like how do you keep a sandbox fresh?

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You know, how do you keep a sandbox like elite fresh and I think with elites case, I don't
think they've succeeded in that regard like Yeah, I think they have failed in keeping it

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fresh and wanting me to go back to it

366
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Like, I don't know how they did it, but Jumpgate kept me playing for over 10 years, you
know, until they shut it down.

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Um, I think it's was partially a good community.

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Partially the progression felt great.

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the ships felt great.

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The flight model felt great.

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the economy was really meaningful.

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That sort of thing.

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It never really felt that good in Elite.

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Wait, they just added the ability to colonize your own systems in Elite?

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Oh.

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Huh.

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That might make the game feel more meaningful.

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Maybe.

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Has everyone played a lead recently?

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wait, sorry.

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Thorsten, you had your hand up.

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Sorry.

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Go ahead.

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Yeah, the problem with Elite Dangerous, I guess, is a bit different.

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They introduced gameplay mechanics that are, from my perspective, completely nonsense.

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That's the problem I've got with Elite Dangerous.

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You know, let's tackle it from another side.

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The universe of the previous games

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didn't change, or the previous Elite games didn't change much.

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And uh here, now you've got crazy things like uh ships that are completely unbeatable.

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gameplay mechanics that let you shoot things with much smaller ships, it doesn't work for
me personally.

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That's the problem I've got with this game.

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It feels a lot like War Thunder in space to me.

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And I didn't touch it for years, at least five years.

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I've not touched it in a long time either.

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um Julie, what'd you want to say?

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Well, just as an example of a game that's pure sandbox and I'll bet dollars to don't that
I'm the only one that's played all, spend a lot of time early on in Minecraft.

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Maybe not, who knows?

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I haven't played that in long time, but the thing is, it's an example of a game where
there isn't.

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Any, you know, random quest or anything really to keep you going once you've killed the
end dragon.

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It's like, well, what the hell am I doing now?

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This is why you have games that have a lot of, and I feel like me, I've only seen videos
if it put copia or something like that.

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There's a new Pokemon game that is like Pokemon set in Minecraft.

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And so it's a lot like, well, Minecraft was something to do in it.

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And if a game is entirely sandbox and it can becomes like Ultima Online, it's like, unless
you can make your own goals, ultimately I can get bored to tears.

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And that's kind of what happened with Ultima Online with me.

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I

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Yeah, I I tried playing minecraft um For a little bit and again, that's I guess that's one
of those sandboxes with no goals at all, which I guess maybe where the topic idea came

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from is One of those kind of sandboxes with no goals at all like like minecraft and some
other ones and those are the kind of sandboxes where Yeah, those don't even have quests or

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missions or anything

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like a pure like sandbox.

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those are the kind, those are the kinds that I can't, I can't gel with.

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Thorsten, what's up?

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Speaking of that, we've got actually a pretty good example in space games.

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that's Space Engineers, was actually, which was completely, I don't get how they managed
to fuck that one up.

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Sorry for my language now.

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I really don't like how it turned out.

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I don't think you're alone there.

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Spaz, what's up?

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This is going to be a bit of a deep cut, but hey, Brian, play Minecraft.

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Ha ha.

422
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I forgot about that.

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completely forgot.

424
00:38:35,918 --> 00:38:43,593
Okay, so friends, if you don't know what we're talking about, there was a time, God, it
feels like a million years ago now.

425
00:38:43,794 --> 00:38:46,175
It feels like so long ago now.

426
00:38:46,175 --> 00:38:52,880
I lost my last job and for a year, my wife and I agreed I would try for a year to become a
full-time streamer.

427
00:38:53,801 --> 00:38:59,615
Obviously it didn't work out sadly, but I tried for a year to become a full-time streamer.

428
00:39:00,237 --> 00:39:03,158
And then COVID happened and everybody tried.

429
00:39:03,178 --> 00:39:06,900
It was bad timing.

430
00:39:07,180 --> 00:39:08,481
Plus probably other things.

431
00:39:08,481 --> 00:39:14,313
um And ah we're not doing, we're not streaming to YouTube again.

432
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fudge rockets.

433
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um

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Dang it all to heck.

435
00:39:26,723 --> 00:39:27,093
Sorry.

436
00:39:27,093 --> 00:39:31,664
um So I was trying to stream full time.

437
00:39:31,664 --> 00:39:35,235
So I would stream for hours, five times a week, every day.

438
00:39:35,295 --> 00:39:46,378
And for weeks, this kid, I'm guessing a kid, months, months, would come on and just say,
stream Minecraft, play Minecraft.

439
00:39:46,818 --> 00:39:48,779
And I would just say, thank you.

440
00:39:48,779 --> 00:39:51,110
I started off very polite, like, no, thank you.

441
00:39:51,110 --> 00:39:51,880
It's not my thing.

442
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:52,440
No, thank you.

443
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,640
It's not my thing.

444
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:54,501
It bores me.

445
00:39:54,501 --> 00:39:56,241
I started out very polite.

446
00:39:56,986 --> 00:39:58,048
for a while.

447
00:40:00,206 --> 00:40:04,257
And this kid kept coming for literally months.

448
00:40:04,257 --> 00:40:08,338
It's all this person would ever say was play Minecraft.

449
00:40:09,318 --> 00:40:12,819
And they had their, their sound muted.

450
00:40:12,819 --> 00:40:17,801
So they never heard the reply from Brian and they ignored chat.

451
00:40:17,801 --> 00:40:23,042
So they never saw anything from me when I would say, no, that's not going to happen.

452
00:40:23,042 --> 00:40:27,113
Or why would you suggest it and then never elaborate?

453
00:40:29,145 --> 00:40:31,745
Yeah, it was, um, was very frustrating.

454
00:40:31,745 --> 00:40:34,185
So we, think we eventually banned them.

455
00:40:34,185 --> 00:40:44,785
I think, I think, um, yeah, because, yeah, because, uh, that was, it's like, it was very
weird.

456
00:40:44,785 --> 00:40:46,265
It was, it was very weird.

457
00:40:46,265 --> 00:40:49,005
It's like, why, why are you doing this?

458
00:40:49,005 --> 00:40:51,505
Why are you wasting, why are you wasting everyone's time?

459
00:40:51,505 --> 00:40:53,285
Yours, ours.

460
00:40:53,445 --> 00:40:54,685
Are you that bored?

461
00:40:54,685 --> 00:40:56,325
Are you that bored?

462
00:40:58,761 --> 00:41:00,650
Um, yeah.

463
00:41:02,393 --> 00:41:06,733
So I guess we should start because I'm running out of ideas on what to talk about.

464
00:41:06,733 --> 00:41:08,873
So let's talk about favorites, I guess.

465
00:41:09,273 --> 00:41:15,913
First, we'll talk about everyone's favorite kind of campaign kind of kind of sandboxing.

466
00:41:15,913 --> 00:41:19,973
Let's talk about everyone's favorite sandbox and a game.

467
00:41:20,553 --> 00:41:24,773
I have to think about it like the first one that comes to my head.

468
00:41:25,093 --> 00:41:30,033
At least we'll just go around the around the room in order you don't have to raise your
hand.

469
00:41:30,613 --> 00:41:32,713
If I have to think about at least

470
00:41:32,718 --> 00:41:38,342
Currently, my favorite sandbox is probably going to be probably taxi knot.

471
00:41:38,342 --> 00:41:49,018
I mean, it's got some story elements to it, but God, it's just a big, giant universe of a
thing where you just take taxi missions and do your own thing.

472
00:41:49,018 --> 00:41:54,291
it's, I get, again, I feel like that sandbox was made for me personally.

473
00:41:54,572 --> 00:42:02,817
And it's just such a massive sandbox where you're just burying people around and you don't
have to worry about crafting.

474
00:42:03,417 --> 00:42:06,918
You sometimes have to worry about combat, but I run away from that.

475
00:42:07,479 --> 00:42:08,719
Or reload.

476
00:42:09,220 --> 00:42:10,680
As the case may be.

477
00:42:11,597 --> 00:42:17,323
I think as far as sandbox games go, that's probably my, at least current favorite.

478
00:42:17,484 --> 00:42:20,465
Baz, do you have at least a current favorite sandbox?

479
00:42:21,555 --> 00:42:24,616
Current favorite is probably still No Man's Sky.

480
00:42:24,616 --> 00:42:29,918
Spaceborne 2 comes pretty close in terms of just how much it offers.

481
00:42:29,918 --> 00:42:31,578
And I still need to get back to it.

482
00:42:31,578 --> 00:42:34,379
I've been distracted by other games as I mentioned earlier, but...

483
00:42:34,379 --> 00:42:46,893
uh On the other hand, when I do return to Spaceborne 2, there will be plenty more waiting
for me because the dev is just so prolific with his updates.

484
00:42:48,055 --> 00:42:49,565
Yes, he is a machine.

485
00:42:49,565 --> 00:42:51,453
I feel like he's like the Tracy Brothers.

486
00:42:51,453 --> 00:42:53,817
He's an Android and he just keeps...

487
00:42:54,681 --> 00:42:56,505
He just keeps updating it.

488
00:42:56,505 --> 00:42:58,401
Cranking out updates, yeah.

489
00:42:58,465 --> 00:42:59,627
Amazing.

490
00:42:59,749 --> 00:43:03,618
Thorsten, do you have a favorite, at least current favorite campaign game?

491
00:43:07,741 --> 00:43:11,556
My favorites in general are the mountain blade games.

492
00:43:12,979 --> 00:43:17,205
I ever come back to them now and then.

493
00:43:17,205 --> 00:43:21,481
And I even play a warband from time to time.

494
00:43:25,039 --> 00:43:25,902
Good call.

495
00:43:25,902 --> 00:43:27,666
Bannerlord is still fun.

496
00:43:27,708 --> 00:43:30,185
But yeah, I could see that.

497
00:43:31,757 --> 00:43:32,857
Julie, what about you?

498
00:43:32,857 --> 00:43:35,375
I can have a guess as to what it is, but what about you?

499
00:43:35,375 --> 00:43:36,716
Do you have a favorite?

500
00:43:36,830 --> 00:43:38,789
Let's guess and see if you're right.

501
00:43:38,947 --> 00:43:40,161
I'm going to say X4.

502
00:43:41,142 --> 00:43:43,104
Oh, I didn't even have to say it.

503
00:43:43,104 --> 00:43:44,485
X4, yes.

504
00:43:44,485 --> 00:43:45,705
That's it.

505
00:43:46,927 --> 00:43:48,269
Yeah, you're right.

506
00:43:48,269 --> 00:43:50,330
You must be able to read my mind.

507
00:43:51,364 --> 00:43:53,667
I mean, it's I can't blame you.

508
00:43:53,667 --> 00:43:57,983
I mean if it's it's such it's so good at what it does.

509
00:43:57,983 --> 00:44:09,717
It really is just so good I mean if I was more if I could do more if my brain could handle
more business stuff I would probably be in love as in love with it as you are but

510
00:44:09,873 --> 00:44:19,213
the thing is the reason I like it so much is it's depending on what mode I'm in, it's the
best of both worlds.

511
00:44:19,213 --> 00:44:27,333
I can go back and do like a campaign thing, or I can build a, uh, do a sandbox thing.

512
00:44:27,333 --> 00:44:34,733
And the closer I approached retirement, the more I'm willing to say, Hey, this is project
management.

513
00:44:34,733 --> 00:44:37,313
I'm a professional project manager.

514
00:44:37,375 --> 00:44:39,840
Every now and then I'll set myself a goal.

515
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,626
like, let's see if I can destroy the human race.

516
00:44:42,626 --> 00:44:45,361
And which I succeeded in doing at one point.

517
00:44:45,361 --> 00:44:49,018
So that's why I like it the best.

518
00:44:56,538 --> 00:44:57,443
Yes

519
00:44:58,105 --> 00:44:59,405
as

520
00:44:59,977 --> 00:45:02,137
You'll have to repeat the question, I'm afraid.

521
00:45:02,137 --> 00:45:02,688
Apologies.

522
00:45:02,688 --> 00:45:06,444
Do you, is there a campaign, a game with like a sandbox?

523
00:45:06,444 --> 00:45:10,099
That's what you say either your current favorite or your overall favorite.

524
00:45:10,099 --> 00:45:13,103
overall favorite four you said...

525
00:45:13,124 --> 00:45:14,317
sandboxes.

526
00:45:14,317 --> 00:45:15,914
a sandbox, yeah.

527
00:45:16,414 --> 00:45:21,749
Um, haven't really played any recently.

528
00:45:21,749 --> 00:45:25,371
The closest I can say is Elden Ring these days.

529
00:45:25,371 --> 00:45:26,244
all right.

530
00:45:26,244 --> 00:45:29,490
ah

531
00:45:29,490 --> 00:45:33,891
definitely expanded out the scope dramatically.

532
00:45:35,412 --> 00:45:46,595
But besides that, I don't really play many Samus games because I am very much the sort of
person that gets into an open world game and sort of stares at things and goes, okay, what

533
00:45:46,595 --> 00:45:47,835
do I do now?

534
00:45:48,456 --> 00:45:50,536
Hello?

535
00:45:51,156 --> 00:45:53,237
Can I get anything?

536
00:45:53,357 --> 00:45:54,257
No?

537
00:45:55,117 --> 00:45:57,858
Okay, I'm gonna go somewhere else, please, and thank you.

538
00:45:58,179 --> 00:45:59,032
You

539
00:45:59,856 --> 00:46:13,651
In fact, in sandbox games, I have this notorious tendency that what I do is I basically
think of either a build or a specific thing I want to accomplish in a sandbox game.

540
00:46:13,651 --> 00:46:17,490
In Elden Ring especially, I very often did exactly that.

541
00:46:17,490 --> 00:46:28,189
Thought, okay, I'll make a character build that's this, this, and this, and this, and then
I'm gonna put it together, and then I'm gonna finish it up, and then I'm not gonna be sure

542
00:46:28,189 --> 00:46:30,030
what to do with it, and I'm gonna quit.

543
00:46:32,570 --> 00:46:44,514
And then if I come up with another idea like that, I come back to the game, I do something
else and I go and I do that and then I also give up the game for like another year.

544
00:46:44,794 --> 00:46:50,936
I am unfortunately very goal oriented person when it comes to games.

545
00:46:51,076 --> 00:46:58,498
So a game going, so a game going do whatever is basically a guarantee of me not being able
to do anything.

546
00:46:59,758 --> 00:47:00,548
No, I hear that.

547
00:47:00,548 --> 00:47:02,760
All right.

548
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,081
I guess we'll wrap up with the last question.

549
00:47:05,221 --> 00:47:06,502
Well, my last question.

550
00:47:06,502 --> 00:47:08,433
Like, well, we'll turn it out its head.

551
00:47:08,433 --> 00:47:10,885
Favorite linear campaign game then?

552
00:47:10,885 --> 00:47:13,497
And mine's got to be Free Space 2.

553
00:47:13,507 --> 00:47:16,619
I mean, best space dogfighter ever.

554
00:47:16,619 --> 00:47:20,532
Best story based dogfighting campaign ever, I think.

555
00:47:20,532 --> 00:47:25,937
um To me, for me, nothing beats Free Space 2.

556
00:47:25,937 --> 00:47:28,887
um What about you, Spaz?

557
00:47:30,231 --> 00:47:47,981
You know, I'm going to have to go with a unusual pick here, but I would say Symphony of
War as mine because that strategy RPG campaign is very linear.

558
00:47:47,981 --> 00:47:52,863
There are a few branching paths where you can do some side missions, but it's very linear.

559
00:47:52,863 --> 00:47:55,945
the same time, it's extremely compelling.

560
00:47:55,945 --> 00:48:00,144
with one of the DLCs, with the DLC, you get

561
00:48:00,144 --> 00:48:13,133
uh new game plus so you can not only recruit your characters again you can recruit clones
of them into your army put them into your squads and as you go new game plus new game plus

562
00:48:13,133 --> 00:48:27,672
new game plus plus plus you can build a squad that is entirely of one character you've
cloned multiple times over multiple games and it can be as broken as it sounds it's very

563
00:48:27,672 --> 00:48:29,025
fun but

564
00:48:29,025 --> 00:48:35,628
You have to be into that kind of game to really go through that many new game plus
iterations.

565
00:48:38,179 --> 00:48:39,126
That sounds pretty great.

566
00:48:39,126 --> 00:48:42,806
think that one, yeah, that one really takes it for me.

567
00:48:44,441 --> 00:48:45,023
Awesome.

568
00:48:45,023 --> 00:48:46,016
Julie, what about you?

569
00:48:46,016 --> 00:48:48,853
Do you have a favorite linear campaign game?

570
00:48:50,282 --> 00:49:11,256
Well, I do but can I sort of Step to the side a little bit and use my favorite RPG
campaign and that is fallout new Vegas and I want to just say how disappointed I am in

571
00:49:11,256 --> 00:49:16,040
that when I Went into the latest fallout new Vegas this didn't happen.

572
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,682
But the first time I played fallout new Vegas

573
00:49:20,330 --> 00:49:29,155
And I stepped into the strip area and heard Dean Martin saying, ain't that a kick in the
head?

574
00:49:29,155 --> 00:49:30,716
That was like, wow.

575
00:49:30,716 --> 00:49:37,820
was like I was really back in Las Vegas again, which I've went to before.

576
00:49:37,961 --> 00:49:47,046
And I think of all the Fallout games, that is probably the most fun I played.

577
00:49:47,150 --> 00:49:53,080
as far as a campaign and more than once I have blown up.

578
00:49:54,706 --> 00:50:00,513
blown up the nuke just to see how Bethesda was going to do a nuke.

579
00:50:00,513 --> 00:50:05,678
And so that is my favorite game with an RPG campaign in it.

580
00:50:08,951 --> 00:50:10,434
Awesome.

581
00:50:10,434 --> 00:50:11,860
Thorsten, you got one?

582
00:50:12,898 --> 00:50:13,658
Yeah, of course.

583
00:50:13,658 --> 00:50:18,900
uh My favorite campaign game is definitely Wild Busters.

584
00:50:20,140 --> 00:50:21,761
Without any doubt.

585
00:50:21,761 --> 00:50:40,096
Yeah, I know that game did pop up very often when I say something, but uh I mean the
original campaign is already pretty good and I've played it through several times.

586
00:50:40,358 --> 00:50:52,258
And also the option of having a procedurally generated campaign is also great in my
opinion in this game.

587
00:50:52,258 --> 00:50:54,340
It's very good executed.

588
00:50:59,050 --> 00:51:03,596
I think I started playing it and then I wasn't very good at it.

589
00:51:03,637 --> 00:51:05,619
Maybe I need to give it another shot.

590
00:51:08,003 --> 00:51:09,485
Jacob, what about you?

591
00:51:12,380 --> 00:51:16,931
So, what you're asking of me there is essentially my favorite game period, which...

592
00:51:20,592 --> 00:51:24,693
I cannot give an appropriate answer to that.

593
00:51:25,934 --> 00:51:26,834
Like...

594
00:51:27,990 --> 00:51:29,255
I don't know, like...

595
00:51:29,255 --> 00:51:37,517
I could maybe list my favorite, like, story-based campaign period.

596
00:51:37,917 --> 00:51:40,978
Which would be Metal Gear Rising, because it's funny.

597
00:51:41,646 --> 00:51:42,430
is it?

598
00:51:42,714 --> 00:51:44,016
It is!

599
00:51:45,261 --> 00:51:46,806
But I genuinely...

600
00:51:46,806 --> 00:51:51,857
Again, you're basically asking me to pick my favorite game and I can't reliably do that.

601
00:51:52,186 --> 00:51:53,027
That's fair.

602
00:51:53,027 --> 00:51:54,468
That's completely fair.

603
00:51:54,468 --> 00:51:56,189
That's absolutely fine.

604
00:51:56,189 --> 00:52:03,453
um We can't always pick a favorite amongst our beloved games.

605
00:52:03,453 --> 00:52:04,974
That's totally fine.

606
00:52:05,615 --> 00:52:13,119
All right, my friends, it is time to spin the wheel and talk about and look at our next
topic.

607
00:52:13,300 --> 00:52:15,301
Let see if I can do this properly.

608
00:52:17,414 --> 00:52:18,416
There's the wheel.

609
00:52:18,416 --> 00:52:19,356
Right.

610
00:52:20,119 --> 00:52:21,280
Spin it.

611
00:52:31,125 --> 00:52:35,767
And it is resurrected MMOs.

612
00:52:37,068 --> 00:52:38,048
All right.

613
00:52:38,409 --> 00:52:39,169
Yeah.

614
00:52:39,169 --> 00:52:39,770
Yeah.

615
00:52:39,770 --> 00:52:41,501
I already have at least two in mind.

616
00:52:41,501 --> 00:52:43,842
That's two spacey ones.

617
00:52:43,842 --> 00:52:47,138
There are a lot of others that aren't spacey ones.

618
00:52:47,138 --> 00:52:49,675
are many resurrected MMOs.

619
00:52:49,675 --> 00:52:54,828
um Yeah, there are many resurrected MMOs.

620
00:52:54,828 --> 00:52:58,400
So that's what we're going to talk about next time.

621
00:52:58,400 --> 00:52:59,180
That'll be fun.

622
00:52:59,180 --> 00:53:00,561
That'll be a good one.

623
00:53:00,953 --> 00:53:02,434
There's a good chunk of them.

624
00:53:02,474 --> 00:53:06,317
There's a good chunk of them, including my favorite jump gate.

625
00:53:06,317 --> 00:53:09,519
um Friends, that's going to do it.

626
00:53:09,519 --> 00:53:17,193
ah So just quick, just a quick question around the table.

627
00:53:17,193 --> 00:53:20,266
How do we feel about Riverside the first time using it?

628
00:53:20,387 --> 00:53:24,018
My friend, my my lovely co-host, how do we feel about the first time using this thing?

629
00:53:24,018 --> 00:53:24,560
Great.

630
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:25,120
It's great.

631
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,502
I really like it.

632
00:53:26,765 --> 00:53:29,700
I feel like I don't step on other people as much.

633
00:53:29,837 --> 00:53:31,363
Yes, yes.

634
00:53:33,794 --> 00:53:35,038
Yeah, I like it too.

635
00:53:35,038 --> 00:53:36,852
It's out of the same reason.

636
00:53:38,957 --> 00:53:39,820
Yes.

637
00:53:40,312 --> 00:53:41,045
Yeah, there's.

638
00:53:41,045 --> 00:53:42,923
the experience has been positive.

639
00:53:43,393 --> 00:53:53,241
Yeah, I'm I am very happy with it the raise hand thing alone might make it worth the money
But I think I think from an editing standpoint for me.

640
00:53:53,241 --> 00:54:05,912
It's gonna be a lot better um But friends um who listen to this later after I upload it,
please uh Write if you have any comments about the sound quality, please.

641
00:54:05,912 --> 00:54:12,177
Let me know if it sounds better or worse to you I would love to hear back um

642
00:54:12,793 --> 00:54:20,996
uh Yeah, so please let me know um But thank you so much for listening and Have a you know,
lovely day.

643
00:54:20,996 --> 00:54:21,717
Everyone be safe.

644
00:54:21,717 --> 00:54:26,379
Be well take care of each other ah Please get all your shots.

645
00:54:26,379 --> 00:54:36,182
Please wear your masks Thank you as always to our patrons who not only help pay for things
like restream better now probably gonna help pay for things like this This is not this

646
00:54:36,182 --> 00:54:39,604
Riverside thing is not free It will cost money.

647
00:54:39,604 --> 00:54:42,829
I'm on a free trial right now, but I think I'm keep it

648
00:54:45,786 --> 00:54:54,072
Don't forget to check out retro dogfight um Which is where this idea came from in the
first place one of the community members over at retro dogfight came up with this idea and

649
00:54:54,072 --> 00:55:00,237
I I got to give it to him I think it's a good one and Don't forget to wear your helmet.

650
00:55:00,237 --> 00:55:02,669
We'll see you back here tomorrow with junkyard universe.

651
00:55:02,669 --> 00:55:03,049
Everyone.

652
00:55:03,049 --> 00:55:04,080
Have a great day.

653
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,021
See you tomorrow.

654
00:55:05,021 --> 00:55:05,931
Bye

655
00:55:07,654 --> 00:55:09,957
and stopping recording.